How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love BukkitDev

Discussion in 'Bukkit Project and Community Feedback' started by Afforess, Sep 16, 2011.

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    I know that there have been a lot of unfair complaints comments about BukkitDev ever since it launched. I myself was one those who immediately began looking for faults in it.

    Fortunately, I've seen the light, and am hoping to shine it on all of you too!

    BukkitDev is frankly the best project management tool in existence. Forum based modding management has a lot of drawbacks. Primary, it's ease of use for users cause them to get filled with countless pages of nagging posts comments, bug reports, and useless crap posts. Worse, formatting forum posts can be an effort in futility - XenForo has over nine-thousand settings and an intuitive editor to use when you create posts. The choices can be overwhelming. Formatting is a breeze with BukkitDev! It's BBCode editor let's you choose from an amazing 5 6 possible formatting options! And if you're feeling 1337, you can switch to wikicrap wikicreole, a syntax style developed and designed by a vast community of developers, and manually look up the syntax online for each and every situation you need!

    But BukkitDev doesn't just solve the formatting problems inherent in forums - it puts the digital equivalent of a DMZ between you and your potential userbase! Naive Compassionate developers who try to provide support will be prevented by the website design, which encourages the peaceful separation of users and developers. Now, you are free to disable complaints comments, bug report tickets, and forums from your project. You can live in total harmony, free from the complaints constraints and demands input from your userbase. Even in the event of a worst case scenario, when some hapless n00b user manages to discover the PM system built in and submits a query to you, bukkit.org will never notify you! BukkitDev seamlessly manages to separate you from every possible avenue of communication, while providing the pretense of support.

    BukkitDev has finally achieved "development nirvana", by bringing the look and feel of project home pages back to the 20th century, and removing the most painful part of any project, user support, completely out of the equation. And for this, I applaud them.

    Mein Fuhrer, I can Dev!
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    I noticed you posted this on bukkit.org, bukkit.org will not be supported anymore please move this to BukkitDev.
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    Did I just see you null a well-worded argument with one sentence?
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    I have been saved!
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    Probably my favorite feature of BukkitDev is the tiny fixed width of every page, so no matter what screen you have, netbook or TV, it's the same size. That way, I know my relatively short lines are being squished the same way no matter where you look at it from.

    EDIT: Just be careful because sometimes your huge images will go outside of the box!

    This post has been edited 1 time. It was last edited by olloth Sep 16, 2011.
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    Pfft, only outdated website with bad .css design don't have auto width-adjust.
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    i wouldnt hate on bukkitdev if it wasnt so unstable...it basically has a whole lot of problems and is still under progress but we are being forced to use it..
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    How can you not like the 12-hour waiting periods to get your downloads approved? They are advocating staying active and I find that admirable.
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    That's a Catch-22 though. You can't have high-quality material be approved without an active, live human behind a computer, and you can't speed up approval speed without using a script/bot (like Phpbb forum).
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    12 hours? Why do you get favoritism? One of mine took two more updates over 48 hours before the original one was approved. Maybe I just need to update less! I guess I will just put out an RB like every few months and all the bugs in-between will just wait.

    EDIT: Better yet, I should have just coded it all right the first time. My mistake.

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    This BukkitDev love thread turned into a BukkitDev hate thread. :eek:
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    High quality plugins like http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/cfbook/ and others I guess mean that I will just have to wait for human approval, then I know it's high-quality.

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    tips48

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    This thread is a winner.
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    I'm kind of thinking that main post was 90% sarcasm, and 10% crossed out words...
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    Sarcasm? NEVER!
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    Drakia

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    Also, @Afforess I just want to say, you're awesome! :D Haha.
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    i too hated it at first but then i discovered the hidden feature that prevents me from updating my server too often, not only does it randomly stop me accessing it but at work its completly disabled.
    player " have we got the updated version of zttta plugin?"
    me "no i was unable to access the page"
    player " i was for about 5 minutes it looks good"

    player" have we at least fixed the config problem with simpleconfig plugin?"
    me "no the developer refuses to answer forum posts and will only respond to tickets"
    player"did you posted a ticket?"
    me "not yet i got one from the train station and have written it out on the back, much quicker then waiting for the page to load will post later"

    i love this save in time and energy also the devide in the community and having to check 2 different sites that look earily similier but are so different helps so much


    (on a side note i do feel guilty a bit as its clear from twitter that the bukkit team do work hard for us...but this bukkitdev thing is just such a **le** w*&*&$@ ..sorry guys)
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    well thats not my problem my problem is i cant connect to it without it signing my account out or just the page being slow and saying DNS isnt available
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    Hate to break it too you but i think that's your problem not bukkitdev's. try goto minecraftwiki.net and see if it loads. But yes i too dislike the new bukkitdev platform, especially because my account on there is completely separate from here. I have a plugin author title there, but no posts and the opposite here.

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    @Afforess I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not !
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    Both of you just ruined what we had going in this post.
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    Celeixen

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    YEP!
    But check out every thread about bukkit dev and that guys talking about his DNS issues :p
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    dont like my issue dont read it im trying to figure out how to fix it...
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    fail
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    M1sT3rM4n

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    Sarcasm IS the best medicine, after all.
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    *shakes head*

    It's not exactly done yet.

    Really, do we have to jump down the Bukkit team's throats about everything? Is it really THAT bad? Every forum post about a plugin has "TO FILE A BUG PLEASE INCLUDE THIS INFORMATION:" followed by a list of things like "Stacktrace" and "list of other plugins", "config file", etc. Then 250 posts of "when edit config is not working all players are admin YOU SUCK" and if you ask a legit question you are greeted with "it was answered way back on page 195 if you'd take the time to use the search feature" which never returns useful results.

    Sure it needs some cleanup, but let's not knock it until it sucks after they've put some time into it. Personally, I'm glad they're busy with 1.8.

    Maybe we should put @Afforess in charge of it and see how it turns out;)
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    Seriously, I would love that ;)...
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