[MECH/MISC] Seasons - Snow Snow Snow Edition. I can see it ! [1.5.2]

Wuhuu it fixed it, and I just found a typo: "You're in the Dry Seasonfor still 21 days.".

I think this line got a better ring to it:
"You're in the Dry Season for another 21 days" .

Ok, will modify it
Today on MutliWord .... not easy at all ^^

Man, i have a problem !
I installed your plugin, and today i entered in my server, and the season is Wet or Dry, and the colors are dead! I passed the 30 days so many times, and stay Wet or Dry! How i put the season that all things is more "colorfull" some command? i tryed too remove the plugin, but dont back normal.

(Sorry about the bad english)

Sorry but my plugin doesn't do nothing with colors
Rain set the world darker but It's not the Seasons plugin fault if colors are "dead"
And first what do you want to say by "dead" ?

Example:
The grass and trees, with your plugin the tone more dark, look:

Normal :



With the plugin:




I want put the normal way, and i tryed delete your plugin, but don't come to normal...

The plugin cant do that, what you are looking at is grass color differences due to the different biomes minecraft has.

Yes, but this happened after i installed the plugin

I made this plugin and I can assure you it doesn't had effects on biome and colors
Trust Me !

Oh, ok!
your plugin is aewsome.
About Bioma, this change with the time? so i will play, and some day it will get normal?

Thanks, Gusang

@rominos2

Eagerly awaiting next version - my players are complaining that the rain last too long so I'd like to configure shorter weather cycles (I'd probably set the weather to change twice a day rather than just the current once a day).

Right now, I have added MultiWorld and a configuration resolution to 0,1
Now I am completing multiWorld and add some configurable text.
Also added Seasons change with command
Version 1.2 soon !

Is it possible to customize the color for each name of seasons and be able to customize the season message ?

Thanks

--- Release of the Version 1.2---
See changelog with awesome changes
New types of files
You should erase the older to put new ones
Also added to Minecraft UpToDate plugin

--> Sphax The Seasons message if now configurable but not the Seasons color
But each world can have its proper color for messages

I just realise that's impossible (for the moment ?) to set a "winter" season where everything would be covered by snow... and in "spring" season, all the snow in other biome than tundra would melting up.
Is this possible ?

Don't know right now
But perhapse could change biome in Chunk files for a while, I don't know

Not possible. Biomes aren't stored in chunk data; they are "generated" by the world seed value on the fly. Therefore, you will never be able to modify the biomes and therefore change the coloring unless you change the world seed, and that will be largely random. Unless Mojang decides to generate the biome data and then store it with the chunks so it can be later modified on a block-column by block-column basis, biomes are inherit in your map and are stuck that way forever.

Unfortunately that means no snow storms anywhere you like.

Wait, what about the biome terrain mod? i know it affects it when it's spawning however it also completely ignores whatever seed the world is using. maybe with a little bit of modification this could be used with the biome terrain mod to change biomes world wide? just an idea. I'm no genius when it comes to how biomes work but it may be worth looking into.

Whilst the actual snowing may be based on the biome the snow covered blocks don't seem to be. I've managed to somehow corrupt my world in a such a way that snow shows up on top of sand blocks in the desert and ice forms on large swaths of water that are not snow biome, haven't experimented yet but the snow block is id 78 - what happens if you place this on the ground at random during a season with snow enabled? This snow wasn't automatically melting so you'd need to keep a track of it and melt it manually in the "summer" (any season without snow enabled). Of course this is a lot of changes to the world and a biome managed solution would be best if possible.

Snow blocks can be created anywhere. Not sure if they melt when placed where they aren't supposed to be. (since MC assumes snow will only ever been in snow biome "naturally" they probably don't have a decay like leaves...not sure really) but weather is based on biome, which is why rain only turns to snow where the terrain generator placed snow.

I think this should be changed, and I've posted on GetSatisfaction about it.

22:19:30 [SEVERE] Nag author: 'rominos2' of 'Seasons' about the following: This plugin is not properly shutting down its async tasks when it is being reloaded. This may cause conflicts with the newly loaded version of the plugin
22:19:30 [SEVERE] Nag author: 'rominos2' of 'Seasons' about the following: This plugin is not properly shutting down its async tasks when it is being reloaded. This may cause conflicts with the newly loaded version of the plugin
22:19:30 [SEVERE] Nag author: 'rominos2' of 'Seasons' about the following: This plugin is not properly shutting down its async tasks when it is being reloaded. This may cause conflicts with the newly loaded version of the plugin
22:19:30 [SEVERE] Nag author: 'rominos2' of 'Seasons' about the following: This plugin is not properly shutting down its async tasks when it is being reloaded. This may cause conflicts with the newly loaded version of the plugin
22:19:30 [SEVERE] Nag author: 'rominos2' of 'Seasons' about the following: This plugin is not properly shutting down its async tasks when it is being reloaded. This may cause conflicts with the newly loaded version of the plugin
22:19:30 [SEVERE] Nag author: 'rominos2' of 'Seasons' about the following: This plugin is not properly shutting down its async tasks when it is being reloaded. This may cause conflicts with the newly loaded version of the plugin
22:19:30 [SEVERE] Nag author: 'rominos2' of 'Seasons' about the following: This plugin is not properly shutting down its async tasks when it is being reloaded. This may cause conflicts with the newly loaded version of the plugin
22:19:30 [SEVERE] Nag author: 'rominos2' of 'Seasons' about the following: This plugin is not properly shutting down its async tasks when it is being reloaded. This may cause conflicts with the newly loaded version of the plugin
22:19:30 [SEVERE] Nag author: 'rominos2' of 'Seasons' about the following: This plugin is not properly shutting down its async tasks when it is being reloaded. This may cause conflicts with the newly loaded version of the plugin

Yeah, they definitely weren't melting. I was thinking in absence of the ability to specify snow or rain that one could slowly generate random snow blocks around the landscape (say within a set distance of occupied chunks) to make it look cold/snowy during the winter season, then remove any of these blocks that are left once the season finishes.

Actually this sounds like something that iGrow does (except for the removing part) - perhaps a cool feature for iGrow would be to be able to hook into seasons to determine which season it currently is and grow things according to season (or accelerate/decelerate growth).

@rominos2
Would it be possible to hook into your plugin and determine what season it is?

--> G1R
Is it the 766 build ?
I don't had look at that
Perhaps this afternoon

EDIT :
I tested and there no problems with 766
Please explain more what did you do and how

--> Zarius
Don't know to make handlers but could be a nice idea

hey there iam another one useing propertime and was just wondering if your working on a workaround maby based on servertime or localtime or somthing (as you see I am not a programmer) . i think ill wait on your plugin for now as longer days is more important to my users than seasons , but otherwise this plugin looks great and thanks for the hard work.

My work is based on DayTime in Minecraft
The time should work with ProperTime
I not have time this week to test but normally there's no problem with properTime, ... normally ^^

@rominos2 in response to your inquiry on my profile:

I haven't been over the code myself, but from the information I've gathered it is based on world seed and location as part of the client's rendering. So, for example, when a chunk loads from the disk (or SMP server) the client looks at the global position of the columns in the chunk (x,z coordiantes) and feeds those into a sort of "world.getBiome(x,z)" function, which will return the biome type based on the location. Because computers use pseudorandom generators, the same seed will always generate the same biome pattern across the map at the same coordinates. It likely builds this into an array in memory and when the blocks of the chunk are actually rendered, it simply does a quick lookup in the chunk's table when determing how to shift the texture colors, or which type of weather to display.

Because this mapping of the biome only exists in the client's RAM, servers have no way to control it.
The only possible hack is for an SMP server to send a custom world seed at login (which is the only time the client accepts this data), and the only thing you can accomplish with that is to force the client to render a biome map based on the custom seed; you'd have no per-block or even per-chunk control, because sending a second login packet locks the client on the loading screen.

Check out my link to GetSatisfaction, I've suggested that instead of rendering the biome mapping at runtime, the map data should store it, to allow customization post-terrain generation. This is the functionality that would be needed to allow snow to be placed in specific areas of the map, since it is based off the biomes. It would certainly be a boon to Seasons as you could just link into the chunk-load fucntions and feed custom values as users load chunks based on the current season - and this wouldn't even necessarily save to the map files because you'd be altering the data "in transit", so if your plugin is ever disabled the biomes return to their original generated state.
One catch I can see is that if the user is not moving and loading new chunks, there isn't a way to force the client to change the biome data (unless the data is sent to the client in the same way block change events are sent). This would mean changing seasons would require knowing which chunks a user can see and pushing a change event for every column of blocks to keep their visible area sync'd with the biome change, or else the user would need to be moving across the map to witness biome changes happening on-the-fly.

Ok I understand
It looks complicated ^^

Is it possible to trigger only a part of rain/snow effects i.e. make the sky dark (and maybe hear feeble rumbles) but not let rain/snow start? This could happen before and after actual precipitations to make them more believable, in vanilla MC they come and go too suddenly.
I bet it's client-side, but it can't hurt to ask.

Too coplicated to do.
To make the sky dark, two possibilites :
1) As you said, the client part
2) Play with light with day/dawn and so on to make the sky darker

Before darkening the sky, perhaps save the current time and set the time to just before dusk. The sky should darken naturally then we just hold the time at a set dark point with a timer and when finished set the time back to currentTime + elapsedTime.

Yes, should work
I will see that during this Weekend
Have some stuides right now