[SEC] NoCheat v3.5.0 [CB 1.2.4 R1.0][ABANDONED]

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    smarf12

    Hello could you make normal permissons supported would help me out very much.
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    No.
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    For those that are wondering: NoCheat does already support the upcoming "1.1 R5" version of CraftBukkit. So don't fear the update.
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    Want a plugin that can really block those spambots? Try this:

    AntiPwnage: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/antipwnage/

    It does a much better job than NoCheat will probably ever do, so I'll remove the spambot feature from NoCheat with the next version. If you like it, be sure to leave some feedback for the author or donate.

    I'm very happy that somebody else made such a plugin now, let's me work on the stuff that I'm good at.
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    CKSpoiler

    Hey, could you please update to R5? :)
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    R5 hasn't been released yet. And NoCheat will work with R5 anyway, no need to update it.
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    Oh yeah, 1.1 R5 will obliterate the Permissions 2/3 plugins. So awesome! /)^3^(\

    If you still use those (or explicitely support those in your plugin - why would you do that??), you should really stop now. There is no point in using/supporting a permission system that has no working plugins left that use it.

    Finally. /rant
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    For those that tried the link to "AntiPwnage" and didn't find the plugin that I talked about: It has been taken down by the author because of threats against him. I'm picking up the development of it now, expect to find the plugin (now called "NoPwnage") here: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/nopwnage soon.
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    smarf12

    Why not?
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    Because the Permissions 3.1.6 plugin will no longer work with CB 1.1 R5 (it breaks completely).

    Please just stop using plugins that haven't been updated for over 6 months and update to either PermissionsEx, bPermissions or Essentials GroupManager.
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    smarf12

    ahhh man i gusse ill have to upgrade to bPermissions i have been thinking about doing it for a long time but havent had time to remake all permissons but i gusse ill have to do it then :( well thanks for the update didnt know it wont working in 1.1 R5
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    bPermissions has an import tool for the old Permissions 3 files. That should make it easier for you, just go to the thread of the plugin and ask how to use it, if unsure. :)
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    smarf12

    okay now im confused like it brings my currnet groups from permissions to bPermissons?
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    Yes, it should be able to do that automatically.
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    smarf12

    so if i have my old permissons in the same place as bpermissons it transfers?
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    smarf12

    dude im not gettin
    dude im not getting it working when i add a group or user when i reload the server it removes all i added do i have to use a sertent command? or waht
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    Have you removed the Permission 3.1.6 plugin? You need to remove that, add bPermissions, restart the server and then - Citation from the FAQ of bPermissions: do these commands: "/permissions import yml" or "/permissions import p3" depending on your case.

    I can't help you beyond that, all I know is that it works.
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    NoCheat v. 3.4.2:

    • Permissions explained in "Instructions.txt"
    • Removed "chat.spambot" check (will probably soon become part of my other plugin "NoPwnage" instead)
    • Fix walking/jumping on/over Nether Fence
    • Added ".silent" permission node for all checks. Don't log messages for that player and check, but still do everything else as usual

    Instructions.txt now includes instructions for permissions.

    I removed the spambot check thingy because I'll move it soon into my new plugin "NoPwnage" that's aimed specifically at spambots.

    Walking on nether fence should be possible now without problems.

    You can now use e.g. "nocheat.checks.moving.nofall.silent" permission node to prevent NoCheat from logging "nofall" messages for the player, while still doing everything else (e.g. dealing fall damage) as usual. The ".silent" will work for all checks.

    http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/nocheat/pages/changelog-and-downloads/
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    Joshuame13

    I've noticed a bug, with consistent results. If you are sprinting and jumping on ice, it says you are going too fast and jerks you back. This is because if you sprint and jump on ice, you actually do go faster.
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    JohnPulse

    Hello Evenprime,

    First of all, thaks for your hard work on this plugin. It's present 24/7 on my server for months now.

    On the past, the plugin recomended that Bukkit has the Allowflight string as "true". This is still recomended nowadays?

    Regards,
    John.
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    I've fixed this some time ago. Please update NoCheat to a newer version.


    If you want to allow some players to use mods for flying, then yes. Else the builtin fly protection of Minecraft may kick them from the server when they fly. If you don't want to allow flying for anyone anyway, then you can set it to/leave it at false.
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    JohnPulse

    Thanks for your quick feedback.
    The only ones flying will be the mods if the have /gamemode 1, no exceptions.

    Regards,
    John
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    Alec049

    I both hate and respect you, but anyway good job with no cheat. Minecraft servers would all be fucked without no cheat.
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    My last two weeks started right now. Sometime in the middle of March I'll be practically leaving Minecraft and Bukkit and Plugin development forever. You'll only get answers to questions and small bugfixes on weekends (if at all), no more new features and as soon as I got the feeling that someone else is capable of providing similar service as NoCheat does, I'll retire completely (unless I feel like retiring earlier). NoCheat is Open Source and has a nice License that allows you to do pretty much everything with it, so if someone feels like making a clone - use a different name then to avoid confusion (!), go for it.

    This is no joke, although I initially planned on leaving on April 1st, effectively making an April fools joke that isn't one - therefore actually fooling people. ;) (damn, so close).

    I'm leaving for personal/private life reasons. And because there will be someone that tries to use my leaving as an example of how "X" is destroying the community, here are some things that are NOT the reason for me to leave:

    - Lack of donations: I'm not stupid, I never expected to make even remotely enough money from this in comparison to the time and effort that I'd have to put into it. And I was right. For those that are curious, I got ~200 $ in donations for over a year of work (at least 10 hours a week spent on "customer" support, information gathering, reading through source code and programming, that's 50 weeks * 10 hours = 500 hours for 200 $ - or less than 50c per hour).

    - Lack of appreciation: I got nice comments from time to time about people liking the plugin, also I could clearly see that it gets used a lot by servers. I never felt like people didn't respect my work or were "ungrateful pricks". Also, the occassional "I like your plugin" or "Thank you" really did lighten up my mood and motivate me when I felt burned out a bit (HINT: "Thank you" is ridiculously cheap to say and really has a positive impact on developers, so be sure to use it from time to time).

    - "Stupid" users: Minecraft is for many people the first time that they host a server or have such close contact to software, software developers and configuration files, therefore it is just to be expected that they ask "stupid" questions. And that they ask the same questions over and over and over again. I (at least hope that I) have never shot such people down and always tried to help them. And I liked helping them, 99% of the time. If I had a bad day, I tried to not answer at all than be insulting to someone who didn't really do anything wrong.

    - "Bukkit": Bukkits limited API, the slow development process, new features that take ages to implement. All of these did never really bother me. And all of these things did vastly improve over the last few months, so there is really nothing I could complain about here. To the contrary, I really like where the project is heading now and wished I could participate longer in the ride into to future. I don't see Bukkit ending anytime soon. :)

    - Curse, BukkitDev": I never had problems with these. Except for Curse destroying my "Evenprime" account (it's somewhere in Nirvana) which (I have to admit) was partly my fault. But hey, I simply used "Evenprime85" instead and all was well.

    - "The Community": I didn't participate in the community here at the bukkit forums over the last few months, because I've used others that were a lot more fun to me, because more specialized in what I'm interested in. So I can't say "the community" did influence me at all, neither in a positive nor negative sense.

    - "Spout": At first I was exited about Spout becoming its own Minecraft server project. But now that I've seen where they are planning to go I've to say I don't see them as a competition to Bukkit anymore. I'll get my glass sphere and predict the future for you: Spout will never be able to provide the "vanilla" gameplay feeling of the original Minecraft, because a lot of that gameplay comes from design flaws in Minecraft. Either Spout would have to implement them too (which they won't, that's the whole reason for writing a server from scratch) or somehow try to emulate them (which is almost impossible). Trust me, I've had to work around those flaws for a year, I know them very well. So I expect Spout to become a platform for total conversion "mods" of Minecraft, that don't even try to give you the vanilla gameplay feeling, while Bukkit stays the number 1 in providing the "original Minecraft multiplayer experience". Long story short, "Spout" had no influence on my decision.

    - Threats, Bribes: Some may think by writing a plugin like NoCheat I'd get a lot of threats from people or people that try to bribe me into stopping developing it (or adding some kind of backdoor). And you are right. I did get threats, but none of them could be taken serious. If e.g. I regularly got random people threaten me to find out who I am and to release that info (to "dox" me), despite me clearly providing that info for free to everybody that's capable of reading. Open your "NoCheat.jar", then the "Readme.txt". Tada, you've successfully "dox'd" me. *snicker* Also I regularly got money offers for adding backdoors to NoCheat. Highest (real) offer was 50$ for somehow excluding a username from NoCheats checks. I also got the offer of 500 $ for retiring immediatly, but that was likely a joke. Rest assured that I never gave in to threats or accepted bribes like that.

    Can't think of any other NON-reasons atm, although I'm sure people find something that they can link me to somehow anyway. :/
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    Thanks for the nice time. I hope you liked what I did for Minecraft and Bukkit.

    PS: I'll try to squeeze some small new features/stuff into those last two weeks, but don't expect too much.
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    mbaxter I haz a bukkit Moderator BukkitDev Staff

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    Quite a lovely plugin you crafted. Excellent legacy to leave behind.
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    Good luck in your future endeavors @Evenprime you've left quite an impression on the MC Modding Community. Best wishes!
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    That was both the best and worst post I have ever read on this forum. Best because you are apparently quite awesome, and worst because I have two plugins and a server that depend on NoCheat. That's the same for everybody though.

    Very much so, without NoCheat the server I run would be a lawless crazy world. To be honest, I think most of the restrictions you put in place with the plugin should be made a part of CraftBukkit (would that actually be possible in some way ?).

    It would be a shame to see NoCheat die since it has become so iconic, and just the fact that it on the /pl list will stop a lot of people even bothering with any kind of cheats.

    Anyway. Thank You.

    This post has been edited 1 times. It was last edited by Jacek Feb 27, 2012.

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