Inactive [TP/MECH] Nethrar v2.3.1 - No-command minecart supporting Nether / multiworld portals [1.3.1]

Using the new version, its not generating the world.yml. I need this for the corner block options of other worlds.

is it ok to create it? or will that cause issues?

I thought I fixed that. It is totally okay to make your own. You can also download the sample one linked to by world.yml in the description and edit that one.

sounds good. I can create it, no big deal. just wanted to check before doing it.
do you know what I need to set the nether ratio to? since Id be creating my own, I don't want to break everyone's current nether portals it made. as its working without the worlds.yml for normal nether portals, but not sure what its making the ratio.

Like the example and the default, normal world set to 8, nether to 1.

Dont work for 1.2.5 D:

Sigh. Usual spiel, any errors in the error logs, does nothing work or do only some things work, do you have some sort of special setup, etc. etc. I'll take a look at some point.

Has there been any change in the generation of portals when leaving the Nether?

It seems more apt to forcibly match the y axis, as opposed to finding a portal in the general vicinity.

The y-coordinate matching code hasn't changed, but I think the counterpart-validation code did change which made it more likely to consider whatever portal it was linked to to be 'invalid.' If it doesn't have a valid portal, it'll forget it and start over. I couldn't pin down this behavior, and I seemed to have resolved it in my testing, but since I've had a couple reports from people that it hasn't been working out I'll dig into that part of the code again.

Dev build of Nethrar available at https://www.dropbox.com/s/i09pljt0cxnb560/Nethrar.jar, supports the following changes:

• Added world parameter height: <number>, which defines a maximum height that world can have. If you have issues with a 256 high normal world and a 128 high nether, add this parameter to the nether world's block in worlds.yml
• Supports permissions nodes nethrar.goto.<worldname>. If you are using Permissions, players must have that permission for every world they are allowed to portal to. So, if you want to create one-way portals to the Nether, you could give every player the permission nethrar.goto.world_nether, but deny permission nethrar.goto.world.

So can you make this feature? only allowing lighting of a portal if there already exists a counterpart in the destination world?

If my compromise sounds good, yes, I can do that.

Yeah, your compromise sounds better than my original idea, i'd love this feature to be implemented

Okay, I made a nether portal, before I had Nethrar, and it went to the nether, I built a little base, then I tried going back THROUGH the portal and ended up at another portal. This happens a lot, and when I went back through their portal, it led to our base. Bad, so I installed nether, went through OUR portal and it created yet ANOTHER portal in the middle of the nether (Not in the center, but surrounded by nether rack) Now, I can't find our old nether base, but in the case that I do, is it possible to link portals manually? If not, it would be a great feature!.

Yeah, it can happen. I started on a core code refactor last weekend to make my life easier, it's not going as well as I'd hoped. It'll happen eventually though.

If you have both portals, you can manually edit plugins/Nethrar/portals.yml to point the two at each other. The file isn't normally meant to be edited by players, so it's not very readable, but someone earlier wrote a post about how to edit the file to point any two portals at each other. On the plus side, you won't run into the issue of portals randomly linking up anymore Note that to generate the file you must start the server with Nethrar installed, go through each portal, then completely stop the server.

alright- so i cannot find a "worlds.yml" file, only a "portals.yml" are these the same thing or what? this is THE only plugin that supports multi-world for the newer releases that works but i cant even find half the right files and its a big headache

worlds.yml only exists if you provide it, and I have included links to samples / defaults. I thought I had included the fix which automatically creates it in 2.3.1, I guess not. If you download the .zip or .tar.gz files, you'll get a package which includes all the files by default.

ah! thank you, this should fix it, thanks for your time!

also: in the promp

orld: environment: normal destination: world_nether scale: 8 world_nether: # Note that the environment field is *required* environment: nether destination: world scale: 1 peaceful: false respawnTo: worlddoes the scale refer to world's scale, or the world_nether's scale? as simple of a problem
that this may be, i keep somehow messing up on the specific line spacing '-.- again,
thank you for reading and sorry for ANY bother this caused

So, if you have

Code:

world:
        scale: 8
world_nether:
        scale: 1

That means that 'world' has scale 8 and 'world_nether' has scale 1. For every 1 block you move in world_nether, you move 8 in world. This is meant to be the same as vanilla.

In yml files, every time you have

Code:

something:
        thing:
        thing2:
        thing3:

thing, thing2, and thing3, are all associated with "something." The indented things are associated with the first un-indented thing above them.

Im getting theese errors from the Nethrar plugin. any help?

Code:

>11:00:55 [SEVERE] java.io.EOFException
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at java.io.ObjectInputStream$BlockDataInputStream.peekByte(ObjectInputStream.java:2570)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject0(ObjectInputStream.java:1314)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at java.io.ObjectInputStream.defaultReadFields(ObjectInputStream.java:1963)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readSerialData(ObjectInputStream.java:1887)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readOrdinaryObject(ObjectInputStream.java:1770)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject0(ObjectInputStream.java:1346)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject(ObjectInputStream.java:368)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at com.gmail.nossr50.util.blockmeta.HashChunkletManager.deserializeChunkletStore(HashChunkletManager.java:210)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at com.gmail.nossr50.util.blockmeta.HashChunkletManager.chunkLoaded(HashChunkletManager.java:30)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at com.gmail.nossr50.listeners.WorldListener.onChunkLoad(WorldListener.java:36)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1.invoke(Unknown Source)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:616)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader$1.execute(JavaPluginLoader.java:302)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.plugin.RegisteredListener.callEvent(RegisteredListener.java:62)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.callEvent(SimplePluginManager.java:460)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.ChunkProviderServer.getChunkAt(ChunkProviderServer.java:103)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.CraftServer.createWorld(CraftServer.java:707)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.Bukkit.createWorld(Bukkit.java:154)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.WorldCreator.createWorld(WorldCreator.java:235)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.akrieger.Nethrar.PortalUtil.initializeWorlds(PortalUtil.java:230)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.akrieger.Nethrar.PortalUtil.initialize(PortalUtil.java:101)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.akrieger.Nethrar.Nethrar.onEnable(Nethrar.java:106)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.setEnabled(JavaPlugin.java:215)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.enablePlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:337)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.enablePlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:381)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.CraftServer.loadPlugin(CraftServer.java:256)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.CraftServer.enablePlugins(CraftServer.java:238)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.t(MinecraftServer.java:381)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.a(MinecraftServer.java:368)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.init(MinecraftServer.java:197)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:432)
>11:00:55 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.ThreadServerApplication.run(SourceFile:492)
>11:00:55 [INFO] [NETHRAR] World "world_nether", environment nether, scale 1.
>11:00:55 [INFO] [NETHRAR] World world_nether size: 256
>11:00:55 [INFO] [NETHRAR] World graph:
>11:00:55 [INFO] world --> world_nether
>11:00:55 [INFO] world_nether --> world
>11:00:55 [INFO] [NETHRAR] World respawn redirects:
>11:00:55 [INFO] world_nether respawns redirect to world
>11:00:55 [INFO] [NETHRAR] Nethrar v2.3.1 enabled.

Looks like a conflict with another plugin - notice that the error actually is happening in a chunk listener for another plugin. Maybe McMMO? I'm not familiar with the classes mentioned, but a Google search brings up a lot of links related to McMMO. If you have it installed, try disabling it and trying again, otherwise try disabling other plugins one by one until you find the conflict.

It might also indicate a problem with your machine's hard drive running out of space or having some other issue.

Hey I have searched the forums and having no luck with finding the answer to my issue.
So i have 2 worlds, W1, and W2. W1 is normal, and W2 is the nether.
This plugin creates the W2 just fine, but when I go there, i always seem to spawn in a bad location, high up, burried, in the middle of lava, ect...

Just as a test I i made 2 portals, and jump through each of them in the normal world. They both come out just perfectly side by side in the nether with an 8 to 1 ratio.

I am a bit confused, I thought this would act as a real nether portal where it carries the 1 to 8 ratio and looks for flat land withing X number of blocks?

So they seem to always link to each other by default. So without this awesome plugin in "world" when you make a portal in the real world, it searches the spot in the nether for an already built portal. They NEVER happens with this plugin, even if i make all the portals side by side :S
It is always A to B and B to A and C to D and D to C.

Maybe my configs are wrong but here they are

world:
environment: normal
destination: world_nether
scale: 8
world_nether:
environment: nether
destination: world
scale: 1
peaceful: false
respawnTo: world
RCC:
environment: normal
destination: RCC_nether
scale: 8
RCC_nether:
environment: nether
destination: RCC
scale: 1
peaceful: false
respawnTo: RCC

So with the portal file, you can see, it is JUST doing a 8 to 1, and putting me in random weird crazy floating areas and such....

{removed all other random portals, here are the 4 newest ones as an example...}

RCC_nether;2:
keyblock:
- 17
- 80
- 30
destination: RCC;4
protected: false

RCC;3:
keyblock:
- -582
- 54
- 1009
destination: RCC_nether;5
protected: false

RCC;4:
keyblock:
- 139
- 80
- 247
destination: RCC_nether;2
protected: false

RCC_nether;5:
keyblock:
- -73
- 54
- 126
destination: RCC;3
protected: false

Maybe someone can point something out to me that i am just being retarded about, thanks!
And this is the best plugin. When i first saw the nether didn't work in my multiworld i was gunna cry until i found this

Nope, everything is working as intended. It is maintaining the 8:1 ratio, just not in the y dimension, and it does not search around for flat land first. Your configuration file is fine, the portals.yml file checks out.

My goal with writing Nethrar is to *remove* the randomness of vanilla portal generation. It was one of my (and many other people's) pain points with vanilla Minecraft. As you noted yourself, the coordinates you're being teleported to are exact. There is no flat land searching, no 'am I submerged in lava' checking, or anything. It is strict math.

There *is* a little bit of fuzzy portal matching, though. If you made two portals one in front of the other in the real world, for example, not side by side, they (should) both match to the same portal in the Nether (unless you're unlucky and accidentally cross a certain boundary). Going the other direction, if you're in the Nether and going to the real world, then it does do a little search around the 'optimal' location for a portal to link to, before deciding to make one of it's own. It will always prefer a more 'optimal' portal than one farther away, though, and it won't really check more than 2 y-levels up or down.

Sorry if this doesn't quite work out for you :/

Thanks for the quick answer!

Not what i wanted, i was hoping i was doing something wrong.
I kinda like the idea of the "not knowing" where i will end up in the nether, and IF i can get back to my main portal and such.

But you made it like this, so that is what i will use!
The only "bad" thing is the random spawning in walls and crap. But hey its a whole new type of "not knowing" for me and my friends.

With my current world We are about 50 air blocks above lava and about 80 blocks from the nearest wall. We're working on building a bridge over tonight then Or maybe we'll use gravel!

Not going to ask for it, or even suggest, but is it possible to use the "optimal" location, like if you wanted to COULD it be done the way minecraft does it with the default world? Or that just cant be done with a plugin?

Awesome plugin, one of my favorites!
Thanks for support!

It could be done, but it's not in the theme of Nethrar, which is precision and control. If I were to do it, it'd be as a separate plugin.

Thanks for using it, and I'm glad you enjoy it

Oh i do have another question.
Not sure it is plugin related or not.
But when I die in the RCC_nether, i respawn there; which was in thin air and above lava. So I ended up using another plugin (DD) to move the RCC_nether spawn point to a safe location.

I thought using your config file set like this, that i would die in RCC_nether and spawn in RCC.
respawnTo: RCC
but doesn't seem to work

Thanks again.

Can I expect an update any time soon?

I'm sorry Ross, I know I've been talking about it for a while and it just hasn't come. It's a combination of time and motivation. I find myself planning things for weekends, and around them I mostly just try to veg out. I honestly can't give an estimate of when it might happen. Are you hurting for the feature a hell of a lot? If so I can backtrack the refactor and plop it in, send you a custom jarfile to tide you over.

Don't worry about a custom jar, the plugin would just make things more convenient it's not essential